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	  <p><hi style="font-style:italic;">Freitag</hi> Freytags, ultimo huius, referiren wir ad Caesarem <w lemma="obprotocollirte"><orig>ob-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0352l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00352_038" n="38"/><orig>protocollirte</orig></w> consultation mit denn churfürstlichen und dann weiter, waß <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0352l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00352_039" n="39"/>vom herrn nuncio de conuersatione cum Gallis habita unß angezeigt <w lemma="worden"><orig>wor-</orig><pb n="305" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00353"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_001" n="1"/><orig>den</orig></w>, warauß zu ersehen, daß einmahl kein hoffnung erscheine, mit disen <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_002" n="2"/>leütten zu einigem tractat zu gelangen, wie übel deßwegen auch die <w lemma="mediatores"><orig>media-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_003" n="3"/><orig>tores</orig></w> selbst und sonderlich der Venetus mit inen zefriden und sonderlich der <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_004" n="4"/>Venetus sein abforderung a sua republica ze sollicitiren getrawet; darauffman <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_005" n="5"/>zwar der Franzosen vertröstete weitere erclärung erwartten thet etc. [<hi style="font-style:italic;">614</hi>].</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_006" n="6"/>Eodem ad Caesarem wegen der Oostfrießlendtischen exemption [<hi style="font-style:italic;">615</hi>].</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_007" n="7"/>Eodem ad ducem Sauello [<hi style="font-style:italic;">616</hi>].</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_008" n="8"/>Eodem nach Oßnabrukh [<hi style="font-style:italic;">617</hi>].</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_009" n="9"/>Eodem von Oßnabrukh, das die Schweden noch stetigs auff verglaittung der <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_010" n="10"/>mediatständen verharren, diß vor die einzige remoram propositionis <w lemma="angeben"><orig>ange-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_011" n="11"/><orig>ben</orig></w>, sonsten aber per suos de extirpando papatu comminiren [<hi style="font-style:italic;">618</hi>].</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_012" n="12"/><note xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_a01" type="app" subtype="docNote" place="endpage" facs="#APWIIIC2-1_p0353l12" target="#bsb00056742_00353_012"><p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_043" n="43"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">12</hi> Veneris] <hi style="font-style:italic;">am Rande:</hi> Mediatores ad Caesareanos super istorum replica contra Gallorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_044" n="44"/>propositionem.</p></note>Veneris ultimo huius hora 7. vespertina conuenerunt nos ambo domini <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_013" n="13"/>mediatores et, quae cum plenipotentiariis Gallicis super nostra replica <w lemma="egissent"><orig>egis-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_014" n="14"/><orig>sent</orig></w>, exposuerunt. Quorum summa est huiusmodi: Aliquoties se eosdem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_015" n="15"/>interpellasse, ut mentem suam ad postulata nostra declarare vellent, sed cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_016" n="16"/>longius illos rem extrahere viderent, praeterita die martis iterum a se <w lemma="monitos"><orig>moni-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_017" n="17"/><orig>tos</orig></w> multisque argumentis edoctos huiusmodi prolongationem nulla ratione <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_018" n="18"/>tollerari posse. Tandem promisisse se die insequenti sententiam suam ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_019" n="19"/>singula aperturos. Venisse igitur die mercurii et verborum adprime parcos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_020" n="20"/>paucissimis sequentia exposuisse. Primo omnium curarent ipsi mediatores, ne <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_021" n="21"/>posthac eiusmodi scripturis inuicem certaretur. Nam et prolungari <w lemma="necessario"><orig>necessa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_022" n="22"/><orig>rio</orig></w> hac ratione ipsa tractatuum negocia et facile fieri posse, ut nonnulla in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_023" n="23"/>scriptis ponerentur, quae aut longioribus disputationibus aut animorum <w lemma="exacerbationibus"><orig>ex-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_024" n="24"/><orig>acerbationibus</orig></w> ansam dare possent. Deinde videre se a nobis allegari <w lemma="Caesarem"><orig>Caesa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_025" n="25"/><orig>rem</orig></w> diuersis locis et modis statibus imperii licentiam dedisse, ut ad hosce <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_026" n="26"/>congressus mittere aut venire possint, sed non explicari, cuiusmodi fuerint <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_027" n="27"/>illae resolutiones; sua igitur interesse, ut sciant, quando, ubi quibusque id <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_028" n="28"/>modis factum et an statibus cum iure suffragii comparere permissum. Tertio <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_029" n="29"/>mirari se, quod ipsorum postulatis circa electorem Treuirensem nulla <w lemma="prorsus"><orig>pror-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_030" n="30"/><orig>sus</orig></w> ratione satisfacere velimus, cum tamen id ex forma conuentionis <w lemma="praeliminaris"><orig>prae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_031" n="31"/><orig>liminaris</orig></w> fieri omnino debeat atque, ni fiat, regis sui autoritatem seu <w lemma="reputationem"><orig>reputa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_032" n="32"/><orig>tionem</orig></w> vehementer imminui necesse sit. In conuentione Hamburgensi non <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_033" n="33"/>solum quoad Treuirensem, sed etiam quoad reliquos electores promissos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_034" n="34"/>saluos conductus pro ipsorum deputatis. Quemadmodum ergo verbi gratia <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_035" n="35"/>electori Coloniensi liberum sit nihilominus ipsumet venire vel suos mittere, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_036" n="36"/>ita hoc ex identitate rationis Treuirensi quoque liberum esse debere. Et vero <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_037" n="37"/>a se hoc unice intendi, ut conuentus ordinum legitimi sint, quod quidem in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_038" n="38"/>collegio electorali fieri nequeat, nisi ipse quoque Treuirensis ius comparendi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_039" n="39"/>pro se habeat. Quarto se quidem libenter suos confaederatos nominare et, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_040" n="40"/>quam ipsorum caussa satisfactionem exposcant, declarare velle, sed quia <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_041" n="41"/>bellum adhuc maneat nihilque de pace tractari caeptum, facile euenire <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0353l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00353_042" n="42"/>posse, ut progressu temporis aliqui confaederatorum suorum in partes <w lemma="Caesaris"><orig>Cae-</orig><pb n="306" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00354"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_001" n="1"/><orig>saris</orig></w>  aut vero, qui nunc a Caesare stant, in regis sui partes transeant. Itaque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_002" n="2"/>ne postea noua suboriatur difficultas, satius fore prius de summa rerum, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_003" n="3"/>quae ipsos principales concerneret, agere, confaederatorum autem se postea <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_004" n="4"/>caussam, quo se loco offerret, acturos et hos, qui tum essent, nominaturos. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_005" n="5"/>Cupere illos tamen a nobis intelligere, an speciale mandatum habeamus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_006" n="6"/>etiam cum landgrauia Hassiae, ut quae inter praecipuos confaederatorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_007" n="7"/>numeretur, tractandi, an vero ad hanc rem generali tantum a nobis exhibito <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_008" n="8"/>mandato vellemus insistere. Postremo ipsos aegerrime tulisse, quod in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_009" n="9"/>puncto assecurationis ordinum quoque Galliae assensum postulauerimus, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_010" n="10"/>rem hanc prorsus nouam. Regnum Galliae absoluto statu monarchico <w lemma="constitui"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_011" n="11"/><orig>stitui</orig></w>, quo non eadem, quae in imperio, rerum gerendarum ratio sit. Sed <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_012" n="12"/>posse de hoc puncto <choice><sic>suo tempora agi</sic><corr resp="#editor">suo tempore agi</corr></choice> nec se abnuere, quin conclusa iam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_013" n="13"/>pace conueniens assecuratio ex parte regis christianissimi fiat.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_014" n="14"/>Domini mediatores hanc declarationem, cum nihil, quod ad substantiam <w lemma="negocii"><orig>ne-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_015" n="15"/><orig>gocii</orig></w> principalis pertineret, adiungi viderent, molestissime se tulisse dicebant. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_016" n="16"/>Itaque statim ad singula respondisse. Et Venetum quidem deprompta ex sinu <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_017" n="17"/>nostra scriptura caepisse oppositiones nostras uberiori stylo conscriptas <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_018" n="18"/>commemorare. Et primo quidem, quod ad status imperii attineret, posse a <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_019" n="19"/>nobis dici declarationes Caesaris a nobis allegatas publicas esse <w lemma="omnibusque"><orig>omnibus-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_020" n="20"/><orig>que</orig></w> imperii ordinibus cognitas. Inter quos cum multi sint, quos Galli inter <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_021" n="21"/>suos numerare velint confaederatos, dubitare non posse, quin ab his de <w lemma="singulis"><orig>sin-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_022" n="22"/><orig>gulis</orig></w> penitissime sint informati. Itaque frustraneam esse hanc inquisitionem. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_023" n="23"/>Deinde iam aliquot menses effluxisse, cum ordines imperii inuitauerint et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_024" n="24"/>vero protestati etiam fuerint se diutius expectare nolle; debere huismodi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_025" n="25"/>excusationibus aliquando finem imponi et dici aperte, an nunquam nisi <w lemma="omnibus"><orig>omni-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_026" n="26"/><orig>bus</orig></w> praesentibus ne incipere quidem tractatus velint. Quod ad electorem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_027" n="27"/>Treuirensem attinet, responsum quicquid sit circa saluos conductus, tamen <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_028" n="28"/>certum esse nihil in ea conuentione de liberatione Treuirensis actum, ergo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_029" n="29"/>Gallos eam ex contractu postulare non posse. Sin vero ex conuenientia <w lemma="rationis"><orig>ratio-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_030" n="30"/><orig>nis</orig></w> id euincere velint, iam a nobis ostensum nec rationi nec exemplis hoc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_031" n="31"/>consentaneum esse. Qua instantia cum Galli se quasi constrictos <w lemma="animaduertissent"><orig>animaduer-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_032" n="32"/><orig>tissent</orig></w>, hoc solum ingeminasse, inciuile fore, quod nullam omnino spem eius <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_033" n="33"/>liberandi ostendere velimus, saltem in progressu caussae aliquid sperandum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_034" n="34"/>proponi debere, adeo ut circa hoc punctum flaccescere visi sint. Circa ea, quae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_035" n="35"/>ratione confaederatorum dicebant, se ostendisse ipsos nobis caussam, ut hoc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_036" n="36"/>postularemus, dedisse. Nam cum saepius praetenderint rationem suorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_037" n="37"/>confaederatorum haberi ipsorumque caussis satisfieri oportere hacque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_038" n="38"/>ratione se excusarint, quod ad tractatus principales descendere prius <w lemma="nequeant"><orig>neque-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_039" n="39"/><orig>ant</orig></w>, iure a nobis postulatum, ut palam facerent, qui illi sint et quid petant. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_040" n="40"/>Ratione dominae landgrauiae vero se a nobis aliquam declarationem <w lemma="exspectare"><orig>ex-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_041" n="41"/><orig>spectare</orig></w>. Quod postremo ad assecurationis modum attineret, rem nondum in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_042" n="42"/>eo esse, ut Caesareani aliam admittere formam se nolle dixerint, sperare se <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_043" n="43"/>hanc quaestionem absque difficultate expediri posse nec opus fore multam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0354l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00354_044" n="44"/>hic mouere difficultatem.</p>
	  <p><pb n="307" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00355"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_001" n="1"/>Sed vero cum in his omnibus nihil, quod ad ipsorum tractatuum <w lemma="principalium"><orig>principa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_002" n="2"/><orig>lium</orig></w> substantiam pertinere possit, comprehendatur, cupere se a Gallis <w lemma="intelligere"><orig>intelli-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_003" n="3"/><orig>gere</orig></w>, quid nomine regis sui a Caesare et imperio uniuerso postulent sibique <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_004" n="4"/>fieri velint, nam in hoc rerum summam totiusque negocii caput consistere. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_005" n="5"/>Et quidem hoc loco postulata ipsorum necessario in chartam coniicienda <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_006" n="6"/>fore, ut sciatur testato, quid utrinque petatur aut concedatur, rationum <w lemma="momentis"><orig>mo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_007" n="7"/><orig>mentis</orig></w>, quae una vel altera pars allegaret, mediatorum fidei commissis, quae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_008" n="8"/>ipsi postea, prout necessitas exigeret, ad utramvis partem oretenus deferre <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_009" n="9"/>possent. Hic cum diu contra ipsos arietassent illique seorsim collocuti <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_010" n="10"/>diuersa quaedam sed neutiquam vel sibi vel inter se constantia proferre <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_011" n="11"/>caepissent, tandem illos prorsus conticuisse, adeo ut sibi necessum fuerit <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_012" n="12"/>manum de tabula tollere, calamum abiicere et negocium totum abrumpere. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_013" n="13"/>Hanc totius cum Gallis habitae conuersationis summam, quae omnia illi multo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_014" n="14"/>paucioribus, quam hic commemorarentur, verbis exposuerint.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_015" n="15"/>Dolere se quidem et vehementer sibi molestum esse, quod pleniorem a Gallis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_016" n="16"/>declarationem extorquere non potuerint. Noluisse tamen se officio suo deesse, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_017" n="17"/>quin omnia fideliter ad nos referrent, ut de singulis tanto plenius suam <w lemma="Caesareanam"><orig>Caesa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_018" n="18"/><orig>reanam</orig></w> maiestatem informare possimus. Et sperare se suam maiestatem <w lemma="perspecturam"><orig>per-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_019" n="19"/><orig>specturam</orig></w> nihil a se omissum, quod quidem ad officium suum pertinere posset. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_020" n="20"/>Nos seorsim paulisper collocuti in hunc modum respondimus: Magnam nos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_021" n="21"/>debere gratiam dominis mediatoribus, quod nos de iis, quae cum Gallis <w lemma="egissent"><orig>egis-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_022" n="22"/><orig>sent</orig></w>, edocere atque simul laborem circa singula adhibitum explicare <w lemma="voluerint"><orig>volu-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_023" n="23"/><orig>erint</orig></w>. Etsi vero, quae a Gallis reposita, facillimo negocio refutari possint et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_024" n="24"/>maximam partem per ipsosmet mediatores solidissime confutata fuerint, <w lemma="tamen"><orig>ta-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_025" n="25"/><orig>men</orig></w> nostri officii esse, ut primo omnium hac de re cum deputatis electorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_026" n="26"/>et statuum imperii conferamus et consilio unanimiter capto dein, quae opus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_027" n="27"/>videbuntur, peragamus. Quare a nobis peti, ut pro sua humanitate graue sibi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_028" n="28"/>esse non patiantur hanc nos inire consultationem, priusquam ad <w lemma="determinatam"><orig>determina-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_029" n="29"/><orig>tam</orig></w> aliquam responsionem deuenire possimus. Interea tamen per modum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_030" n="30"/>discursus et sine ulla obligatione saltem, ut ipsi mediatores iniquitatem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_031" n="31"/>eorum, quae ab aduersariis obiiciantur, tanto melius perspicere secumque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_032" n="32"/>ruminari queant, nos ad singula aduersariorum pauca quaedam reposituros. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_033" n="33"/>Et primo facile nobis cum illis conuenire abstinendum 〈posthac〉 literariis <w lemma="concertationibus"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_034" n="34"/><orig>certationibus</orig></w> fore. Nunquam enim hanc nobis mentem fuisse, ut ad modum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_035" n="35"/>iudiciorum libellis inuicem depugnaremus. Et si Galli propositionem ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_036" n="36"/>pacis media adcommodatam a principio edidissent, nunquam nos ad <w lemma="conscribendas"><orig>conscri-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_037" n="37"/><orig>bendas</orig></w> replicas processuros fuisse. Semper petiisse nos et adhuc petere, <w lemma="proponant"><orig>pro-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_038" n="38"/><orig>ponant</orig></w> postulatorum suorum capita, idem a nobis factum iri. Concertaturos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_039" n="39"/>nos oretenus, donec, quomodo unum alterumve in formam capitulationis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_040" n="40"/>redigendum sit, conuentum fuerit. Secundo, optime replicasse dominos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_041" n="41"/>mediatores circa status imperii, nam declarationes et resolutiones a Caesare <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_042" n="42"/>factas in conuentu electorum anno 1636, in comitiis generalibus anno 1641, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_043" n="43"/>in diaeta Francofurtensi hoc anno publicas et notorias esse et haud dubie in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0355l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00355_044" n="44"/>notitiam Gallorum deuenisse, quod ex ipsorum ad ordines imperii literis<pb n="308" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00356"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_001" n="1"/>pateat ipsos easdem pro fundamento suarum inuitationum allegasse. Rem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_002" n="2"/>tamen, ut compendio omnia dicamus, eo iam deductam, ut tota illa ordinaria <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_003" n="3"/>deputatio Francofurto Monasterium transferri debeat. Nec habere Gallos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_004" n="4"/>caussam de iure suffragii sollicitos esse. Caesarem hoc ius ordinibus <w lemma="nunquam"><orig>nun-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_005" n="5"/><orig>quam</orig></w> negasse. Perpetuam in conuentibus imperii constare obseruantiam, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_006" n="6"/>qua ratione in deliberationibus et consultationibus rerum ad imperii statum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_007" n="7"/>pertinentium inter Caesareae maiestatis legatos et ordines procedendum sit, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_008" n="8"/>eam hic quoque obseruatum iri. Legatorum Caesaris esse caussas proponere <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_009" n="9"/>ad consultandum, de his per collegia ordinum auditis singulorum votis <w lemma="deliberari"><orig>deli-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_010" n="10"/><orig>berari</orig></w> solere, consilium dein, quod capiendum iudicent, legatis Caesaris <w lemma="proponi"><orig>pro-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_011" n="11"/><orig>poni</orig></w>, re denique utrinque mature satis examinata et conclusa ad legatos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_012" n="12"/>spectare, ut executioni singula mandent. Siue igitur omnes ordines siue <w lemma="deputatio"><orig>depu-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_013" n="13"/><orig>tatio</orig></w> aliqua ordinum compareat, nihil hoc ad Gallos pertinere, sed contentos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_014" n="14"/>ipsos esse debere, si ordines non ut singuli sed ut uniuersi per certam <w lemma="aliquam"><orig>ali-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_015" n="15"/><orig>quam</orig></w> et legibus imperii definitam deputationem hic comparere malint, cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_016" n="16"/>in ipsorum hoc libertate per omnia constitutum sit et inique facturi sint <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_017" n="17"/>Galli, si hoc praecise exigerent, ut omnes comparere deberent. Si enim <w lemma="ordines"><orig>ordi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_018" n="18"/><orig>nes</orig></w> Galliae una cum regiis plenipotentiariis hic comparere haberent et <w lemma="propter"><orig>prop-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_019" n="19"/><orig>ter</orig></w> difficultatem tanti numeri vel etiam sumptuum magnitudinem certos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_020" n="20"/>tantum ex suo corpore deputare vellent, omnino aequum putaturos dictos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_021" n="21"/>plenipotentiarios, ut eiusmodi deputationem admittere deberemus, cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_022" n="22"/>nostrum non sit ordinibus Galliae legem praescribere. Ergo idem contra se a <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_023" n="23"/>nobis postulari minus inique ferre nec ordines imperii ordinibus Galliae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_024" n="24"/>loco inferiore censere debebunt. Sin pergant omnium in uniuersum exigere <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_025" n="25"/>praesentiam, iam sole clarius elucescere, quod pacem tractare nulla ratione <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_026" n="26"/>cogitent, cum manifestum sit hoc miserrimo Germaniae statu nunquam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_027" n="27"/>omnes ordines una conuenire posse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_028" n="28"/>De electore Treuirensi mirari nos, quod tam pertinaciter eius liberationem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_029" n="29"/>vel translationem urgeant, cum nobis abunde constet a consilio regio <w lemma="mandatum"><orig>man-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_030" n="30"/><orig>datum</orig></w>, ut ista difficultate non obstante ad pacis tractatus descendere debeant. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_031" n="31"/>Accepisse nos etiam Roma eius rei testimonium. Scribere enim oratorem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_032" n="32"/>Caesareum 11. huius cardinalem Bichium affirmasse plenipotentiariis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_033" n="33"/>Gallicis omnino iniunctum, ut nihilominus progrederentur. Et recte per <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_034" n="34"/>dominos mediatores ipsis obiectum, quod in tractatione praeliminarium <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_035" n="35"/>Hamburgi nihil omnino de liberatione electoris Treuirensis actum aut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_036" n="36"/>conuentum sit, ut ius petendi ex contractu non habeant nihilque ipsis restet, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_037" n="37"/>quam quod ex conuenientia quadam rationis id flagitare videantur. Nos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_038" n="38"/>autem satis superque ostendisse hactenus postulationem hanc omni rationi et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_039" n="39"/>communi gentium usui contrariam esse omnibusque destitui exemplis. <w lemma="Praetendere"><orig>Prae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_040" n="40"/><orig>tendere</orig></w> Gallos captiuitatem huius electoris praecipuam sibi caussam belli <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_041" n="41"/>fuisse. Igitur iure eius liberationem peti non posse, nisi prius de caussis, ob <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_042" n="42"/>quas in captiuitatem deuenit et hactenus detentus fuit, disceptatum ac <w lemma="transactum"><orig>trans-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_043" n="43"/><orig>actum</orig></w> fuerit. Exemplo sit Philippus landgrauius Hassiae<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_dok0336_n01"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0356l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00356_044" n="44"/>Philipp I. (1504–1567), Landgf. von Hessen 1509.</p></note>, quem, etsi ipsius<pb n="309" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00357"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_001" n="1"/>gener Mauritius Saxoniae dux<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_dok0336_n02"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_041" n="41"/>Moritz (1521–1553), Hg. von Sachsen 1541, Kurfürst 1547, vermählt seit 1541 mit Agnes <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_042" n="42"/>von Hessen (1527–1555), Tochter Landgf. Philipps.</p></note> hac praesertim caussa bellum Caesari Carolo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_002" n="2"/>quinto et Ferdinando Romanorum regi<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357n2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_dok0336_n03"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_043" n="43"/>Ferdinand I. (1503–1564), Kg. von Ungarn und Böhmen 1526, röm. Kg. 1531, Kaiser 1558.</p></note> anno 1552 mouerat, in congressu <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_003" n="3"/>Patauiensi<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357n3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_dok0336_n04"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_044" n="44"/>Zu den Passauer Verhandlungen vgl. <hi style="font-style:normal;">K.</hi> <hi style="font-style:smallCaps;">Brandi</hi>, Passauer Vertrag und Augsburger Religionsfriede.</p></note> non prius libertati restitutum constat, quam ipse postulatis <w lemma="Caesarum"><orig>Cae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_004" n="4"/><orig>sarum</orig></w> satis se facturum spopondisset ac literis reuersalibus obedientiam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_005" n="5"/>pollicitus esset, gener item ipsius exercitum omnem exauctorasset ac loca <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_006" n="6"/>hinc inde occupata restituisset ad diem utrinque conuentorum executioni <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_007" n="7"/>praefixum, 12. scilicet Augusti. Eandem hoc loco rationem esse. Igitur idem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_008" n="8"/>statuendum ius fore. Nec obstare imaginationem Gallorum, qua dicant <w lemma="periclitari"><orig>peri-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_009" n="9"/><orig>clitari</orig></w> hic regis sui reputationem. Nam et ad Caesarem pertinere, ut nihil <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_010" n="10"/>ipsius auctoritati aduersum committamus. Eam utique ante omnia saluam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_011" n="11"/>esse oportere, quod fieri non possit, si principem sibi rebellem pace nondum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_012" n="12"/>facta dimittere cogeretur. Implicatam deinde ipsius translationem ad locum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_013" n="13"/>tertium plurimis difficultatibus, neminem enim repertum iri ex statibus <w lemma="imperii"><orig>im-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_014" n="14"/><orig>perii</orig></w>, qui onus hoc in se recepturus sit cum obligatione pace non conuenta <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_015" n="15"/>ipsum in Caesaris manus restituendi. Argumentum autem illud, eo absente <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_016" n="16"/>conuentum electoralem legitimum non esse, vanius esse, quam ut refutatione <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_017" n="17"/>egeat. Nullibi enim legibus aut moribus cautum uno electorum principumve <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_018" n="18"/>ob rebellionis aut perduellionis vel aliud crimen carceri mancipato reliquos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_019" n="19"/>legitimum iustituere conuentum non posse. Hoc modo omnis conuelleretur <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_020" n="20"/>cuiuscunque rei publicae status.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_021" n="21"/>Ad haec cum domini mediatores interpellarent Gallos sibi videri non tam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_022" n="22"/>perseueranter ut antea huic postulato inhaerere, sed nonnihil remissius <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_023" n="23"/>agere et, saltem in progressu negocii ut aliquomodo sibi condescendatur, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_024" n="24"/>rogare, respondimus id in Caesaris positum arbitrio. Si progrediente pacis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_025" n="25"/>tractatu Galli ostenderint aequis conditionibus negocium illud Treuirense <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_026" n="26"/>componi posse, Caesarem suis partibus non defuturum.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_027" n="27"/>Quoad confaederatos equidem admiratione dignum, quod Galli ad <w lemma="eorundem"><orig>eorun-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_028" n="28"/><orig>dem</orig></w> nominationem deuenire nolint et iam hoc caput ad ipsum tractatum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_029" n="29"/>remittant atque, ubi prius de partium principalium conuentione actum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_030" n="30"/>fuerint, successiue singulorum nomina et caussas exponere se velle dicant, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_031" n="31"/>cum hactenus in omnibus suis declarationibus seu voce seu scripto prolatis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_032" n="32"/>semper satisfactionem suorum confaederatorum in ore habuerint atque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_033" n="33"/>adeo professi fuerint se non nisi coniunctim cum ipsis de pace nobiscum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_034" n="34"/>acturos. Igitur ipsos in caussa esse, quod nos fuerimus coacti postulare, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_035" n="35"/>diserte, qui illi sint et quid ipsorum nomine praetendant, edisserant. Quodsi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_036" n="36"/>adhuc ipsorum mens sit nihil de pace tractanda prae manibus sumere nisi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_037" n="37"/>coniuncti cum ipsis confaederatis, inique ipsos agere, quod eosdem adhuc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_038" n="38"/>nominare nolint. Quin hoc ipso darum fieri, cum nulli aut vix unus alterque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_039" n="39"/>confaederatorum adsit, illos omnino nullam pacis faciendae intentionem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0357l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00357_040" n="40"/>habere. Caetera et nos eiusdem esse sententiae et semper fuisse tractari ante<pb n="310" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00358"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_001" n="1"/>omnia componique caussam principalem quoad ipsum Caesarem <w lemma="imperiumque"><orig>imperium-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_002" n="2"/><orig>que</orig></w> ex una et regem Galliarum ex altera parte debere, tum deinde suo loco et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_003" n="3"/>ordine ad caussas utrinque confaederatorum et adhaerentium deueniendum. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_004" n="4"/>Et posse forte hoc loco ad precauendas ambiguitates eandem adhiberi <w lemma="cautionem"><orig>cau-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_005" n="5"/><orig>tionem</orig></w>, quod in tractatu Madritensi reperitur, ubi statim in principio, cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_006" n="6"/>diceretur pacem inter utrosque reges eorumque faederatos esse debere, <w lemma="adiiciuntur"><orig>adii-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_007" n="7"/><orig>ciuntur</orig></w> haec verba: ’eos scilicet, qui inferius ab utrauis parte nominabuntur et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_008" n="8"/>non aliter‘ etc. Quod autem Galli dicunt posse durante tractatu uni vel alteri <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_009" n="9"/>parti plures accedere aut decedere faederatos, id captiosum esse et animum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_010" n="10"/>ipsorum prodere, quo hac maxime caussa omnium ordinum praesentiam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_011" n="11"/>requirunt, quod magnam ex ipsis partem suae confaederationi denuo <w lemma="innectere"><orig>innec-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_012" n="12"/><orig>tere</orig></w> se posse sperent ac id omnino tentare decreuerint. Sed hac de re latius <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_013" n="13"/>nos alibi locuturos. De potestate nostra mandatisque cum landgrauia Hassiae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_014" n="14"/>tractandi non esse, cur solliciti sint; iam pridem, cum de priorum <w lemma="plenipotentiarum"><orig>plenipoten-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_015" n="15"/><orig>tiarum</orig></w> validitate disputaretur, a nobis dictum nos a Caesare sufficientia <w lemma="mandata"><orig>man-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_016" n="16"/><orig>data</orig></w> et instructiones habere, quomodo cum ipsa et aliis eiusmodi ordinibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_017" n="17"/>tractare debeamus in ipsius vel ipsorum liberrima potestate relinquentes, an <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_018" n="18"/>de rebus suis vel immediate nobiscum tractare vel cum Gallis conuenire <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_019" n="19"/>velint. Nullo praeter hoc alio speciali mandato nobis opus esse, clausulam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_020" n="20"/>tractandi cum faederatis Galliae nostro mandato insertam, id publicatum, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_021" n="21"/>sufficientes ad quosvis tractatus legitimati simus.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_022" n="22"/>Postremo de assecuratione tractandorum quaestionem primum ab ipsis <w lemma="Gallis"><orig>Gal-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_023" n="23"/><orig>lis</orig></w>, non a nobis motam fuisse eaque caussa dixisse illos ordines imperii omnes <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_024" n="24"/>adesse debere, quod tractatio cum Imperatore solo inita sat firmitatis <w lemma="habitura"><orig>habi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_025" n="25"/><orig>tura</orig></w> non videretur. Si igitur huius capitis conuentionem usque ad tractatuum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_026" n="26"/>conclusionem differri posse putant, quod et nos semper obtendebamus, <w lemma="luculenter"><orig>lucu-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_027" n="27"/><orig>lenter</orig></w> apparet falsam fuisse caussam aduocandis ordinibus, sed hoc duntaxat <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_028" n="28"/>eapropter inuentum, ut tractationem prolongare possent. At vero quod nos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_029" n="29"/>iure quodam talionis parem quoque confirmationem ab ipsis ordinibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_030" n="30"/>Galliae postulauimus, aegre ferre nec possunt nec debent. Nec plus iuris rex <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_031" n="31"/>christianissimus in Caesarem et imperium quam Caesar in Galliam habet <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_032" n="32"/>caussaeque plures sunt, cur ita et non aliter postulare debuerimus. Contentos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_033" n="33"/>tamen nos esse, ut capitulum hoc usque ad locum suum proprium differatur; <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_034" n="34"/>si dein Galli modum aliquem securum nobis ostenderint, fore, ut nomine <w lemma="Caesaris"><orig>Cae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_035" n="35"/><orig>saris</orig></w> quoque conueniens desuper sequatur declaratio. Cum autem haec omnia <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_036" n="36"/>nihil ad rem ipsam faciant, vehementer nos dolere, quod contemptis <w lemma="dominorum"><orig>domi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_037" n="37"/><orig>norum</orig></w> mediatorum solidissimis admonitionibus plenipotentiarii Gallici ne <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_038" n="38"/>minimum quidem verbum, quod ad pacis componendae media spectare <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_039" n="39"/>posset, protulerint. Semper et ubique ipsos amplissimis verbis inclinationem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_040" n="40"/>regis, reginae et totius Galliae ad pacem celebrare, sed quotiescunque ad rem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_041" n="41"/>deueniendum fuerit, resilire et animum ab hoc negocio alienissimum <w lemma="prodere"><orig>pro-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_042" n="42"/><orig>dere</orig></w>. Si ipsi se explicare nolint, nobis perfacile fore capitula omnia, quibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_043" n="43"/>pacem fieri desideret Caesar, proponere, modo certi simus ipsos postea de iis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0358l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00358_044" n="44"/>acceptandis aut enucleandis et transigendis serio in disceptationem nobiscum<pb n="311" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00359"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_001" n="1"/>descendere velle. Equidem si christiani, si catholici esse velint, debere ipsos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_002" n="2"/>miserrimum Germaniae, imo totius christianitatis statum oculis pietatis <w lemma="intueri"><orig>in-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_003" n="3"/><orig>tueri</orig></w>, conscientiam suam examinare et in memoriam reuocare, quam grauem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_004" n="4"/>aliquando diuinae maiestati reddituri sint rationem ob tantas clades, quibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_005" n="5"/>catholica religio non solum per totam Germaniam sed etiam per reliqua <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_006" n="6"/>Europae regna in maximum adducta est discrimen. Excreuisse enim <w lemma="Suecorum"><orig>Sueco-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_007" n="7"/><orig>rum</orig></w> et asseclarum potentiam eo usque, ut vix omnibus Europae catholicis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_008" n="8"/>principibus possibile sit futurum ipsis resistere. Cogitandum esse, si pace <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_009" n="9"/>inter Danos Suecosque inita militem omnem in Germaniam <w lemma="transportauerint"><orig>transporta-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_010" n="10"/><orig>uerint</orig></w> reliquosque sectarios per imperium sibi adiunxerint, tam potentes et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_011" n="11"/>tremendos coituros esse exercitus, ut his Galli nulla ratione pares sint futuri, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_012" n="12"/>sed coacti permittere, ut omnia pro lubitu agant ferantque ac demum ipsimet <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_013" n="13"/>Galliae iugum seruitutis imponant. Certe iam Suecos palam iactare se intra <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_014" n="14"/>biennium papistas omnes imperio eiecturos atque eiusmodi sermones <w lemma="Osnabrugis"><orig>Osna-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_015" n="15"/><orig>brugis</orig></w> spargi, quemadmodum nostri collegae hodie ad nos perscripserint.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_016" n="16"/>Hunc sermonem excepit Venetus dicens sibi quoque dudum hanc incidisse <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_017" n="17"/>cogitationem, itaque se et dominum nuncium Parisios admodum sollicite <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_018" n="18"/>scripsisse commemoratis omnibus periculis, quae non solum Germaniae sed <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_019" n="19"/>et ipsi Galliae et Italiae hinc metuenda essent, ac vehementer admonuisse, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_020" n="20"/>quam citissime pacem iniri curent.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_021" n="21"/>Postremo repetita nobis fuit superius facta reseruatio, quod haec tantum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_022" n="22"/>familiaris informationis ergo dixerimus et post habitam cum electoralibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_023" n="23"/>deliberationem plenius ad omnia respondere velimus. Interea nihil ad Gallos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_024" n="24"/>deferri necesse esse. Facile acquieverunt domini mediatores caeperuntque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_025" n="25"/>dein de istorum plenipotentiariorum perpetua discordia mentionem facere <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_026" n="26"/>nullamque spem esse, quamdiu una sint, quicquam circa pacis negocium <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_027" n="27"/>cum ipsis expediri posse. Suecos propositionem suam accuratissime <w lemma="conscriptam"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_028" n="28"/><orig>scriptam</orig></w> habere et promptos fuisse huc venire, ut de die et modo, quibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_029" n="29"/>utrinque ad propositiones extradendas procedi deberet, conuenire cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_030" n="30"/>Gallis possint. Sed his non placuisse inter caeteras hac etiam caussa, quod <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_031" n="31"/>inter se minus consentirent. Rescriptum a senatu regio alterutrum <w lemma="reuocatum"><orig>reuoca-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_032" n="32"/><orig>tum</orig></w> iri, et credere se Auausium, sed interea subdubitandum, ne Mazzarinus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_033" n="33"/>utrumque remanere velit, donec dux Longauillanus<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_dok0336_n05"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_042" n="42"/>Henri d’Orléans, duc de Longueville.</p></note> adueniat. Nam <w lemma="Mazzarinum"><orig>Mazza-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_034" n="34"/><orig>rinum</orig></w> abhorrere ab amicitia Auausii nec fidere multum ipsius ingenio. <w lemma="Seruientum"><orig>Ser-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_035" n="35"/><orig>uientum</orig></w>, quod nullo eminentiori officio apud curiam donatus esset, cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_036" n="36"/>dignitate Parisiis viuere non posse. Siue igitur uterque remaneat, nihil cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_037" n="37"/>ipsis componi posse, siue alteruter abeat, eum, qui remanet, absque mandato <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_038" n="38"/>futurum, donec Longauillanus superueniet, cum id mandatum, quod nunc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0359l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00359_039" n="39"/>habent, diserte in duos simul cooperantes conceptum sit.</p>
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