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	  <p><hi style="font-style:italic;">Montag</hi><note xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_a04" type="app" subtype="docNote" place="endpage" facs="#APWIIIC2-1_p0293l34" target="#bsb00056742_00293_034"><p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0293l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_042" n="42"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">34</hi> Lunae] <hi style="font-style:italic;">am Rande:</hi> Visitatio domini nuncii eiusque relatio de actione cum Gallis super <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0293l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_043" n="43"/>nostris iteratis postulatis.</p></note>Lunae 26. huius inuisimus dominum nuncium hora <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0293l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_035" n="35"/>decima antemeridiana officii et adprecandi fausta Natalitia ergo. Qua <w lemma="occasione"><orig>occa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0293l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_036" n="36"/><orig>sione</orig></w> ipse ad longum recensuit se et Venetum omnia et singula argumenta, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0293l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00293_037" n="37"/>quae tum nos tum Hispani in nostris scripturis allegaueramus, excerpta <w lemma="Italico"><orig>Ita-</orig><pb n="246" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00294"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_001" n="1"/><orig>lico</orig></w>     sermone punctatim ita connotasse, quasi ex suo ore prouenirent et ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_002" n="2"/>Gallis contestari possent nullam eiusmodi apud se a nobis extare <w lemma="scripturam"><orig>scriptu-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_003" n="3"/><orig>ram</orig></w>; omnino conueniens esse iudicasse, ut nobis et Hispanis singulas <w lemma="remitterent"><orig>remit-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_004" n="4"/><orig>terent</orig></w>, priusquam Gallos alloquerentur. Hispanos nonnihil tergiuersatos, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_005" n="5"/>sed postero die, cum se accessissent, primo omnium, quae in sua durius dici <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_006" n="6"/>viderentur, auditis domini nuncii rationibus emendasse et, ut ad se dein <w lemma="reciperetur"><orig>reci-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_007" n="7"/><orig>peretur</orig></w>, consensisse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_008" n="8"/>Cum igitur praeterita die sabbati ipse et Venetus Gallos accessissent ac <w lemma="singula"><orig>sin-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_009" n="9"/><orig>gula</orig></w>, quae a nobis, quae ab Hispanis dicerentur aut dici possent, ex schedula a <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_010" n="10"/>se conscripta exposuissent, illos multis ostendere quidem voluisse neutiquam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_011" n="11"/>ipsis obiici posse, quod promissis non stetissent, sed, cum urgerentur, in eo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_012" n="12"/>haesisse, quod licet semper haec pacis negocia coram statibus imperii tractari <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_013" n="13"/>debere replicarent, tamen confiderentur rem quasi inextricabilem fore, si <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_014" n="14"/>omnes conuenire deberent, ideoque adiicerent hoc se non petere sed <w lemma="contentos"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_015" n="15"/><orig>tentos</orig></w> fore, si modo in forma collegii totum imperium repraesentantis <w lemma="adessent"><orig>ad-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_016" n="16"/><orig>essent</orig></w>. Nihilominus se ab illis nullam omnino determinationem, quale illud <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_017" n="17"/>collegium esse, quot statibus constare aut quamdiu ipsorum aduentus, an <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_018" n="18"/>duobus, tribus aut pluribus mensibus, expectari deberet extorquere potuisse. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_019" n="19"/>Obiecisse illos Caesarem impedire, qua minus ordines aduentarent. Sed <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_020" n="20"/>responsum Caesareanos eadem facilitate hoc negaturos, qua illi assererent; illis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_021" n="21"/>incumbere probationem, non his.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_022" n="22"/>Tandem cum multa hinc inde disputa[ta] fuissent, Gallos petiisse tempus ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_023" n="23"/>deliberandum; se cum Suecis hac de re communicaturos et post tres <w lemma="quatuorue"><orig>qua-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_024" n="24"/><orig>tuorue</orig></w> dies responsum daturos. Inter caetera Seruientum quaesisse, quid, si <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_025" n="25"/>Galassus caecidisset Torstensonium, quid facturos Caesareanos putarent, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_026" n="26"/>innuens sibi iam victoria utendum, quam hic aduersus Gallassum obtinuisse <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_027" n="27"/>diceretur. Sed illi replicatum defunctum Caesarem rebus suis feliciter <w lemma="euntibus"><orig>eun-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_028" n="28"/><orig>tibus</orig></w> et hunc modernum semper ad pacem faciendam promptos se <w lemma="ostendisse"><orig>osten-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_029" n="29"/><orig>disse</orig></w>. A curia Parisiensi semper scribi, quantumvis prospere res ipsis <w lemma="succederent"><orig>suc-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_030" n="30"/><orig>cederent</orig></w>, serio tamen pacis negotium promotum cupere reginam et reliquos, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_031" n="31"/>quorum in manu regni administratio est. Praestarent id re ipsa, alioqui non <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_032" n="32"/>effugituros reprehensionem, quasi simulate pacem ostentassent bello interim <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_033" n="33"/>praelato. Haec et multa alia dominus nuncius.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_034" n="34"/>Cui a nobis significatum Gallos monuisse protestantes, ut de conuentu <w lemma="quodam"><orig>quo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_035" n="35"/><orig>dam</orig></w> separatim instituendo cogitarent ad dissipandum istum <w lemma="Francofurtensem"><orig>Francofurten-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_036" n="36"/><orig>sem</orig></w>, et expectare responsum, quo obtento in animo ipsos habere locum, ubi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_037" n="37"/>conuenire debeant, ipsis determinare. Ad ea excanduit dicens Gallos semper <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_038" n="38"/>in curia confaederationes cum haereticis factas negasse atque adeo faedus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_039" n="39"/>Suecicum magno studio occultasse, factum id tandem palam, nunc in dies <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_040" n="40"/>maiorem ipsorum cum haereticis amicitiam, foedera et coniunctiones detegi. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_041" n="41"/>Sub discessum rogauimus, ut pro impetrando saluo conductu pro marchione <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_042" n="42"/>di Carretto, oratore Caesareo in Hispania, qui permittente Caesare in <w lemma="Germaniam"><orig>Germa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_043" n="43"/><orig>niam</orig></w> redire cogitaret, ad curiam Parisiensem scriberet. Id enim Caesarem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0294l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00294_044" n="44"/>desiderare. Pollicitus est se hoc libentissime facturum et ad nuncium <w lemma="apostolicum"><orig>apo-</orig><pb n="247" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00295"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_001" n="1"/><orig>stolicum</orig></w> Parisiis<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_dok0273_n01"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_042" n="42"/>Niccolò Guidi di Bagno.</p></note> agentem scripturum, ut impetratas huiusmodi literas ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_002" n="2"/>nuncium Madritensem<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295n2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_dok0273_n02"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_043" n="43"/>Giulio Rospigliosi (1600–1669), Nuntius in Madrid 1644–1652, Kardinal 1657, seit 1667 <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_044" n="44"/>Papst Clemens IX.</p></note> mitteret.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_003" n="3"/>A meridie Venetum ob simile faustae adprecationis officium accessimus, ubi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_004" n="4"/>is haud dissimilia de Gallis disseruit. Ex cuius oratione quatuor potissimum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_005" n="5"/>notanda veniebant: 1. Quod Galli Caesarem incusarent, quasi status imperii <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_006" n="6"/>impediret, quominus ad loca congressuum venire possent, unde putabat <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_007" n="7"/>ipsum publico scripto declarare debere, quod neminem prohiberet, sed nec <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_008" n="8"/>ullum cogeret. 2. Ut conuentum ex circulis omnibus imperii constitutum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_009" n="9"/>institui permitteret, in quo inhaerere viderentur. 3. Ut vel saltem hoc <w lemma="concederet"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_010" n="10"/><orig>cederet</orig></w>, quo certi deputati ex diaeta Francofurtensi ad congressum <w lemma="Monasteriensem"><orig>Mona-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_011" n="11"/><orig>steriensem</orig></w> admitterentur. 4. Ut Treuirensis in loco quodam tertio seorsim a <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_012" n="12"/>Caesare agere permitteretur, quo palam constare possit ipsum ut captiuum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_013" n="13"/>non detineri. Sed de his omnibus non se prius ad nos relaturum, nisi <w lemma="Gallorum"><orig>Gallo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_014" n="14"/><orig>rum</orig></w> responsum accepissent.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_015" n="15"/>Nos ad singula, quae opus essent, respondimus per discursum. Et primo <w lemma="Caesari"><orig>Cae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_016" n="16"/><orig>sari</orig></w> iniuriam fieri, ut qui nihil aliud ageret, quam ut ne status a solitis <w lemma="comitiorum"><orig>comi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_017" n="17"/><orig>tiorum</orig></w> formulis secessionem facerent. Caetera aduersariis probationem <w lemma="incumbere"><orig>in-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_018" n="18"/><orig>cumbere</orig></w>. Ideoque Caesarem non teneri ad eiusmodi declarationes, cum <w lemma="simplici"><orig>sim-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_019" n="19"/><orig>plici</orig></w> se negatione possit defendere. Ad secundum, circularem conuentum non <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_020" n="20"/>minoribus difficultatibus quam ipsa uniuersalia comitia obnoxium ideoque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_021" n="21"/>ad praesens negocium impratticabilem. Ad tertium, medium hoc unicum et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_022" n="22"/>solum esse, quo omnibus <choice><sic>satifieri</sic></choice> quodque absque multa temporis iactura <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_023" n="23"/>effectum dari posset. Et cum Venetus diceret Gallos hic conqueri Caesarem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_024" n="24"/>tantum eos status eligere, qui sibi fauentes essent, respondimus sine <w lemma="fundamento"><orig>funda-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_025" n="25"/><orig>mento</orig></w> haec dici, cum ista deputatio imperialis sit radicata in constitutionibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_026" n="26"/>imperii legesque habeat certas, quas Imperator praeterire non possit, et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_027" n="27"/>delectum eorum, quos huc mittere deberent, non penes Caesarem, sed penes <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_028" n="28"/>ipsos status esse. Omnino tamen sciri oportere, an Galli hoc modo contenti <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_029" n="29"/>sint futuri. Ad 4. nihil inconsulto Caesare statui posse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_030" n="30"/>Deinde ille ad flagitationem Suecorum de mediatis statibus digressus. Cum a <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_031" n="31"/>nobis didicisset id a Caesare in praeiudicium eorum statuum immediatorum, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_032" n="32"/>quibus isti mediati subiecti essent, fieri non posse, sed hoc tantum a <w lemma="voluntate"><orig>volun-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_033" n="33"/><orig>tate</orig></w> immediatorum dependere, statim intulit: ergo Suecis dicendum, ut agant <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_034" n="34"/>prius cum immediatis, an illi mediatos, hoc est suae ditioni subiectos, huc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_035" n="35"/>adesse pati possint. Nos: id quidem fieri posse, nam etsi compareant, tamen <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_036" n="36"/>ius dicendae sententiae in negociis tractandis non habituros. Postremo et de <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_037" n="37"/>incommoditate tractandi per distincta congressuum loca caepit loqui et, an <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_038" n="38"/>res eo deduci possit, ut Osnabrugensis tractatus huc transferretur. Nos: hoc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_039" n="39"/>a consensu partium dependere; si nullum aliud impedimentum ad <w lemma="tractationem"><orig>tractatio-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_040" n="40"/><orig>nem</orig></w> pacis ineundam obstaret, Caesarem forte non repugnaturum, de quo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0295l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00295_041" n="41"/>tamen mandatum expressum non haberemus.</p>
	  <p><pb n="248" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00296"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00296_001" n="1"/>Conclusio igitur colloquii fuit expectare nos debere, quid Galli post <w lemma="habitam"><orig>habi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00296_002" n="2"/><orig>tam</orig></w> cum Oxenstirna deliberationem responsuri sint. Deinde pro re nata <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00296_003" n="3"/>ulterius de his agi posse. Se interea occasionem quaesiturum, ut cum dicto <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00296_004" n="4"/>Oxenstirna colloqui possit, omnemque operam adhibiturum, ut ipsum <w lemma="quoque"><orig>quo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0296l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00296_005" n="5"/><orig>que</orig></w> in sententiam pertrahat.</p>
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