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	  <p><hi style="font-style:italic;">Montag</hi><note xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_a03" type="app" subtype="docNote" place="endpage" facs="#APWIIIC2-1_p0276l20" target="#bsb00056742_00276_020"><p> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_040" n="40"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">20</hi> Sequenti] <hi style="font-style:italic;">am Rande:</hi> Communicatio cum episcopo Osnabrugensi.</p></note>Sequenti die lunae haec omnia domino episcopo <w lemma="Osnabrugensi"><orig>Osna-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_021" n="21"/><orig>brugensi</orig></w> ad nos vocato exposuimus.<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_dok0261_n01"><p> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_041" n="41"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">Vgl.</hi> APW <hi style="font-style:italic;"><ref type="page" subtype="extern" facs="#APWIIIC3-1_p0067" target="#bsb00056738_00067">III C 3, 1 S. 17ff.</ref></hi></p></note> Ubi ille significauit modo ad ipsum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_022" n="22"/>venisse secretarium quendam, ut se vocabat status, Gallum, qui nomine <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_023" n="23"/>comitis Auauxii diceret heri eorum propositionem dominis mediatoribus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_024" n="24"/>traditam et, quia ibi de restitutione electoris Treuirensis ageretur, rogare, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_025" n="25"/>caussam hanc tanquam electorum libertatem concernentem cordi haberet, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_026" n="26"/>item adiunxisse, quod Imperator iam in hoc videatur consensisse, cum <w lemma="liberum"><orig>libe-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_027" n="27"/><orig>rum</orig></w> reliquerit Gallorum adhaerentibus vel per se comparere vel alios suo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_028" n="28"/>nomine mittere productis ad haec verba saluis conductibus. Cui ipse <w lemma="responderit"><orig>respon-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_029" n="29"/><orig>derit</orig></w> se quidem gratias agere pro indicio, interea tamen non videre, quomodo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_030" n="30"/>haec cum Gallorum praetenso desiderio ad pacem concordent. Treuirensem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_031" n="31"/>in manu summi pontificis stare et plurimum temporis elapsurum, donec hinc <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_032" n="32"/>inde ad quos oportet referatur. Auditis deinde nostris informationibus <w lemma="omnino"><orig>om-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_033" n="33"/><orig>nino</orig></w> necessarium iudicauit, ut nostrae querelae de non obseruata a Gallis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_034" n="34"/>promissorum fide denuo ad mediatores deferrentur atque instaremus, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_035" n="35"/>Gallos serio de edenda propositione monerent.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_036" n="36"/>Vix a nobis discesserat, cum superuenit secretarius Veneti<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276n2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_dok0261_n02"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_042" n="42"/>Andrea Rosso.</p></note> indicans <w lemma="dominos"><orig>domi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0276l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00276_037" n="37"/><orig>nos</orig></w> mediatores hesterna die a nobis statim ad Gallos abiisse, qui polliciti sint<pb n="229" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00277"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_001" n="1"/>se amplius deliberaturos et hodie ad tertiam vespertinam sententiam suam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_002" n="2"/>ipsis renunciaturos esse. Rogare igitur, ut circa quintam cum Hispanis una <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_003" n="3"/>domi exspectemus, quod nobis Gallorum resolutionem significare vellent.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_004" n="4"/><note xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_a01" type="app" subtype="docNote" place="endpage" facs="#APWIIIC2-1_p0277l4" target="#bsb00056742_00277_004"><p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_043" n="43"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">4</hi> Venerunt] <hi style="font-style:italic;">am Rande:</hi> Mediatores ad nos cum Gallorum responso et excusationibus.</p></note>Venerunt igitur hora constituta, ubi prior nuncius: Se ad Gallos nostras <w lemma="propositiones"><orig>pro-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_005" n="5"/><orig>positiones</orig></w> detulisse et simul, quam iustis rationibus conquereremur, quod <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_006" n="6"/>ipsi propositionem omnino nullam, sed exceptiones quasdam praeliminares <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_007" n="7"/>produxissent, explicuisse. Respondere autem Gallos nostras propositiones <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_008" n="8"/>esse nimium generales, in specie vero eam, quam Hispani dedissent, <w lemma="separationem"><orig>separa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_009" n="9"/><orig>tionem</orig></w> quandam a confaederatis inferre, in quam ipsi nunquam consensuri <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_010" n="10"/>sint. Deinde dicere mirari se, quod Caesareani ipsorum propositionem <w lemma="impertinentiae"><orig>im-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_011" n="11"/><orig>pertinentiae</orig></w> accusent, cum satis appareat materias ibi comprehensas <w lemma="substantialissimas"><orig>sub-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_012" n="12"/><orig>stantialissimas</orig></w> esse et, nisi utrumque praecedat, ad pacis tractationem deueniri <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_013" n="13"/>non posse. Itaque rem in eo verti, qua ratione conuentus statuum imperii <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_014" n="14"/>promoueri atque electoris Treuirensis liberatio procurari possit.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_015" n="15"/>Eius orationem excepit dominus orator Venetus et sequentia fundamenta <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_016" n="16"/>pro congregatione statuum imperii allegauit: 1. Quod hoc praeliminari <w lemma="conuentioni"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_017" n="17"/><orig>uentioni</orig></w> Hamburgensi esset conforme. Nam cum ibidem confaederatis, <w lemma="sociis"><orig>so-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_018" n="18"/><orig>ciis</orig></w> et adhaerentibus per imperium Suecorum et Gallorum a Caesare <w lemma="itemque"><orig>item-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_019" n="19"/><orig>que</orig></w> huius ab istis ad comparendum in locis congressuum concessi sint salui <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_020" n="20"/>conductus, palam esse omnes hic imperii status comprehendi utriusque <w lemma="religionis"><orig>reli-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_021" n="21"/><orig>gionis</orig></w>. 2. Pariter in recessu diaetae Ratisbonensis cautum, ut principibus et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_022" n="22"/>statibus imperii ad hos congressus venire caussasque non solum suas sed et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_023" n="23"/>imperii publicas tractare liberum esset. 3. In pace Pragensi expresse dici <w lemma="Caesari"><orig>Cae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_024" n="24"/><orig>sari</orig></w> non licere absque omnium imperii ordinum consensu pacem facere. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_025" n="25"/>Cum igitur Galli hoc loco tantum futurae securitati prospectum velint idque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_026" n="26"/>aliter nisi ordinum praesentia fieri nequeat, aequum et rationi consonum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_027" n="27"/>videri, ut ipsorum petitioni deferatur. Deinde ad Treuirensem quod attinet, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_028" n="28"/>Gallos dicere ipsum nullo belli iure, sed ea solum caussa captum esse, quod <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_029" n="29"/>se in protectionem regis christianissimi tum temporis dederit, cum ipsum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_030" n="30"/>Caesar defendere nequiret. Ideoque iustum omnino esse, ut libertati suae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_031" n="31"/>ante omnia restituatur. Id ni fiat, imminutum iri regis sui existimationem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_032" n="32"/>eaque de causa ad tractandum progredi se non posse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_033" n="33"/><note xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_a02" type="app" subtype="docNote" place="endpage" facs="#APWIIIC2-1_p0277l33" target="#bsb00056742_00277_033"><p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_044" n="44"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">33</hi> Nos] <hi style="font-style:italic;">am Rande:</hi> Nostra replica.</p></note>Nos re seorsim cum Hispanis deliberata respondimus: Primo omnium palam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_034" n="34"/>esse in omnibus actionibus humanis et maxime publicis nihil preciosius <w lemma="nihilque"><orig>ni-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_035" n="35"/><orig>hilque</orig></w> magis aestimandum esse, quam ut fides semel data et promissa <w lemma="seruetur"><orig>serue-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_036" n="36"/><orig>tur</orig></w>. Id ni fiat, iam omnia humanae societatis commercia cessare. Venisse ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_037" n="37"/>nos die 23. Nouembris dominos mediatores grauique oratione exhortatos, ut <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_038" n="38"/>compositis tandem plenipotentiarum differentiis ad negocium ipsum pacis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_039" n="39"/>principaliter tractandum progredi et ad propositionem eo nomine <w lemma="faciendam"><orig>facien-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_040" n="40"/><orig>dam</orig></w> nos praeparare vellemus persuasumque haberemus eum, qui prior <w lemma="mentem"><orig>men-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_041" n="41"/><orig>tem</orig></w> suam aperuisset ac rationi et aequitati magis consentanea ad pacem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0277l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00277_042" n="42"/>media proposuisset, maiorem gratiam apud Deum, insigniorem vero <w lemma="laudem"><orig>lau-</orig><pb n="230" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00278"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_001" n="1"/><orig>dem</orig></w>   apud omnes christianae republicae status et ordines consecuturum esse. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_002" n="2"/>Hactenus Caesarem regemque catholicum satis luculenter animorum suorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_003" n="3"/>ad pacem consequendam promptitudinem palam fecisse, pergerent porro et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_004" n="4"/>operi tam laudabili finem imponi debitum procurarent etc. Huiusmodi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_005" n="5"/>exhortationi nos statim et in ipso vestigio locum dedisse, hoc solum praefati <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_006" n="6"/>prius nobis de mente Gallorum constare debere. Cum enim ipsi in <w lemma="subscribendis"><orig>subscriben-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_007" n="7"/><orig>dis</orig></w> assecurationum formulis directe se ad inchoandum ipsummet pacis <w lemma="negocium"><orig>nego-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_008" n="8"/><orig>cium</orig></w> obligare noluerint, verendum nobis utique esse, ut, etiamsi nos a parte <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_009" n="9"/>Caesaris, quibus mediis ad pacem concludendam perueniri possit, <w lemma="aperiremus"><orig>aperire-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_010" n="10"/><orig>mus</orig></w>, Galli tamen renitantur et ulteriores quaerere ambages conentur. Petere, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_011" n="11"/>ut ipsos ad parem adducant declarationem, a nobis omnino nihil tardatum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_012" n="12"/>iri, nam et paratos nos esse ad proponendum et a Caesare, ut nulla <w lemma="interposita"><orig>in-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_013" n="13"/><orig>terposita</orig></w> mora progrederemur, dudum monitos. Renunciatum postea <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_014" n="14"/>cum iussu domini nuncii die 27. eiusdem nobis fuisset actum cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_015" n="15"/>Gallis eosque auditis rationum, quas ipsi domini mediatores <w lemma="adduxissent"><orig>adduxis-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_016" n="16"/><orig>sent</orig></w>, momentis tandem consensisse sancteque pollicitos ad proximam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_017" n="17"/>diem dominicam, quae nimirum futura erat dies quarta Decembris, se <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_018" n="18"/>propositionem suam circa ipsa pacis ineunda media in manus dominorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_019" n="19"/>mediatorum consignaturos idemque mox etiam a nobis promissum atque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_020" n="20"/>adeo utrinque condictum esset, nos praefixo die et hora promissis nostris <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_021" n="21"/>stetisse, propositionem ad ipsa pacis penetralia directam obtulisse ea plane <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_022" n="22"/>spe Gallos quoque idem syncere ac fideliter sine dolo ac fraude praestituros. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_023" n="23"/>Sed iam contrarium in propatulo esse, loco mediorum ad pacem <w lemma="perueniendi"><orig>per-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_024" n="24"/><orig>ueniendi</orig></w> exceptiones et protestationes, quare nunc quidem ad eiusmodi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_025" n="25"/>propositionem deuenire nolint, obtendi. Itaque nos palam conqueri fidem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_026" n="26"/>nobis datam seruatam non esse nullaque nos ratione ad <w lemma="respondendum"><orig>responden-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_027" n="27"/><orig>dum</orig></w> Gallorum exceptiunculis contra nostram propositionem teneri, nisi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_028" n="28"/>prius et ipsi suam quoque mentem circa media ad pacem aperiant et clare <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_029" n="29"/>dicant, quid a Caesare, quid a rege catholico postulandum sibi esse <w lemma="arbitrentur"><orig>arbitren-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_030" n="30"/><orig>tur</orig></w>. Nos satis distincte, quid Caesar, quid rex catholicus facturi sint, quid sibi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_031" n="31"/>a parte aduersa fieri velint, enunciasse. Si Gallis ad capitula magis distincta <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_032" n="32"/>progredi liceat, ad ipsos pertinere, ut a genere ad speciem progrediantur, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_033" n="33"/>scripto quotquot velint postulata, conditiones, media proponant sicque <w lemma="fidem"><orig>fi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_034" n="34"/><orig>dem</orig></w> promissorum expleant, tum nos, quid ad singula faciendum aut non <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_035" n="35"/>faciendum videatur, haud grauatim declaraturos. Pari omnino passu <w lemma="progrediendum"><orig>progre-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_036" n="36"/><orig>diendum</orig></w>, ut ipsi ad nostram, nos vero ad ipsorum respondeamus <w lemma="propositionem"><orig>proposi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_037" n="37"/><orig>tionem</orig></w>. Id si ipsi facere nolint, iam Caesarem et regem catholicum caussam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_038" n="38"/>habere iustissimam coram toto christiano orbe conquerendi Gallos <w lemma="promissis"><orig>pro-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_039" n="39"/><orig>missis</orig></w> non stetisse nihilque aliud quam retardamenta pacis affectare etc.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_040" n="40"/>Ad praetensa deinda argumenta, quibus necessitatem praesentiae statuum <w lemma="adstruere"><orig>ad-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_041" n="41"/><orig>struere</orig></w> conentur, facilem esse responsionem. Nam ad conuentionem <w lemma="Hamburgicam"><orig>Ham-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_042" n="42"/><orig>burgicam</orig></w> quod attineret, nullum ibi verbum contineri, quod haec pacis <w lemma="tractatio"><orig>trac-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_043" n="43"/><orig>tatio</orig></w> coram praesentia omnium imperii statuum peragi deberet, nec vero <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0278l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00278_044" n="44"/>Caesarem unquam id fieri oportere cogitasse nec unquam eius rei a parte<pb n="231" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00279"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_001" n="1"/>aduersa mentionem iniectam fuisse. Certum autem ex iuris regulis <w lemma="concessionem"><orig>concessio-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_002" n="2"/><orig>nem</orig></w> ad ea, quae quis verosimiliter concessurus non fuisset, minime extendi. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_003" n="3"/>Si aduersarii hoc in animo habuerint, sibi imputare debere, quod legem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_004" n="4"/>apertius non dixerint. Deinde concessionem illam saluorum conductuum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_005" n="5"/>hoc tantum inferre, quod utriusque partis socii, faederati, adhaerentes adesse <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_006" n="6"/>possint, rem liberae facultatis, non necessitatis esse, posse adesse, posse abesse <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_007" n="7"/>status, sed non cogi ut adsint. Tertio non omnes nec in faedere nec in <w lemma="societate"><orig>socie-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_008" n="8"/><orig>tate</orig></w> unius vel alterius partis fuisse, quosdam ut mere subditos se gessisse, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_009" n="9"/>quosdam medio loco fuisse neutri partium addictos, itaque hinc non inferri ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_010" n="10"/>omnes posse. Quarto hunc non esse modum legitimi conuentus, venturos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_011" n="11"/>esse multos, sed non omnes, nec vero omnes venire posse, nisi a Caesare <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_012" n="12"/>conuocati. Caesarem autem nulla ratione cogi posse, ut omnes conuocet, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_013" n="13"/>quod hoc inter pactiones praeliminares conuentum non sit. Itaque falli <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_014" n="14"/>Gallos, si hoc modo securitatem aut firmitudinem futuris tractatibus <w lemma="adstruere"><orig>adstru-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_015" n="15"/><orig>ere</orig></w> cogitent. Longe id alia ratione, siquidem res per imperii status et ordines <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_016" n="16"/>tractanda sit, fieri oportere. Gallos aequum putasse, ac nos ipsorum de futura <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_017" n="17"/>per status Galliae conuentorum ratificatione facta promissione contenti <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_018" n="18"/>simus et hac preconcepta spe ad conclusionem pacis procedamus; caussam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_019" n="19"/>non habere, qua minus et ipsi eadem spe ratificationis per ordines imperii ad <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_020" n="20"/>ipsam pacis tractationem progrediantur. Non enim arctioribus terminis <w lemma="Caesarem"><orig>Cae-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_021" n="21"/><orig>sarem</orig></w> ac ipsum Galliae regem includendum. Si firmitudinem rerum, quae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_022" n="22"/>tractandae obueniunt, spectare velint, nihil huiusmodi a statibus sparsim et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_023" n="23"/>citra morem maiorum comparentibus sperandum, semper patere aditum <w lemma="exceptionibus"><orig>ex-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_024" n="24"/><orig>ceptionibus</orig></w>, omnia hoc casu dependere a comitiis generalibus imperii. Posse <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_025" n="25"/>tractationem pacis ita concludi, ut si opus videatur tota pacis conuentio <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_026" n="26"/>postea in una legitima diaeta imperiali confirmari debeat. Ex recessu <w lemma="Ratisbonensi"><orig>Ratis-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_027" n="27"/><orig>bonensi</orig></w> aliud nihil euinci, quam ut principibus statibusque liberum esset <w lemma="rerum"><orig>re-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_028" n="28"/><orig>rum</orig></w> suarum bonique publici promouendi caussa suos deputatos ad hos <w lemma="congressus"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_029" n="29"/><orig>gressus</orig></w> mittendi. Id vero Caesarem nunquam prohibuisse nec etiamnum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_030" n="30"/>prohibere, sed hoc eam vim non habere, ut propterea praesentia eorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_031" n="31"/>praecise necessaria sit et absentibus statibus pax tractari et concludi per <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_032" n="32"/>Caesaris legatos non possit, cum darum manifestumque sit eo ipso recessu <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_033" n="33"/>Caesari ex publico imperii decreto absolutam dari potestatem pacem in <w lemma="imperio"><orig>im-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_034" n="34"/><orig>perio</orig></w> et cum exteris promouendi, tractandi, concludendi; et hoc vel maxime <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_035" n="35"/>toto ad primam Caesareae propositionis partem tractatu actum esse, ubi <w lemma="nunquam"><orig>nun-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_036" n="36"/><orig>quam</orig></w> cogitatum, nunquam dictum aut scriptum fuerit Caesari sine statuum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_037" n="37"/>praesentia pacem facere non licere. Libertatis et facultatis esse, quod status <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_038" n="38"/>imperii ad hos congressus venire possint, non necessitatis; nec etiam ipsorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_039" n="39"/>libertati quicquam decessurum, quamvis vel nulli vel non omnes <w lemma="compareant"><orig>compare-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_040" n="40"/><orig>ant</orig></w>, adeo ut ab omni alienum sit ratione, quod Galli necessitatem <w lemma="comparendi"><orig>compa-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_041" n="41"/><orig>rendi</orig></w> velint extorquere aut ob statuum absentiam cum Caesare, summo <w lemma="imperii"><orig>im-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_042" n="42"/><orig>perii</orig></w> capite, pacis compositionem detrectare. Et ut demus, quod tamen citra <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_043" n="43"/>praeiudicium dictum esto, omnino requiri, ut ordines imperii rebus tractandis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0279l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00279_044" n="44"/>praesentes sint, Gallos tamen caussam prorsus nullam habere, siquidem <w lemma="tantum"><orig>tan-</orig><pb n="232" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00280"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_001" n="1"/><orig>tum</orig></w> promouendae pacis desiderium prae se ferunt, cur ante ipsorum <w lemma="aduentum"><orig>aduen-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_002" n="2"/><orig>tum</orig></w> cum Caesare aut eius legatis ipsos negocii principalis tractatus ordiri <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_003" n="3"/>velle negent, cum Caesar non solum qua talis et ex potestatis Caesaeae <w lemma="plenitudine"><orig>pleni-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_004" n="4"/><orig>tudine</orig></w>, sed etiam ex singulari totius imperii decreto amplissimam <w lemma="componendae"><orig>compo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_005" n="5"/><orig>nendae</orig></w> pacis potestatem habeat. Non hic agi de iure suffragii, quo ordines in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_006" n="6"/>publicis imperii conuentibus gaudent; ea ipsa de caussa diaetam <w lemma="Francofurtensem"><orig>Francofur-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_007" n="7"/><orig>tensem</orig></w> continuare visum et Caesari et ipsis ordinibus, ut, quae forte <w lemma="inciderent"><orig>incide-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_008" n="8"/><orig>rent</orig></w> grauiores in pace componenda quaestiones, in isto conuentu deliberari <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_009" n="9"/>possent. Plures adhuc septimanas frustra hic expectandum ociosis manibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_010" n="10"/>fore, antequam ordines vel eorum deputati adueniant, nec tamen omnes <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_011" n="11"/>aduenturos et cum iis, qui aduenerint, intricatissimam fore deliberationem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_012" n="12"/>ac prorsus talem, quae <choice><sic>exitum inuenire nullam</sic></choice> possit. Hoc Gallos minime <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_013" n="13"/>latere. Et si nihilominus in sua opinione persistant, sole clarius esse ipsos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_014" n="14"/>tantum subterfugia quaerere nec de pace componenda serio cogitare.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_015" n="15"/>Ad ea, quae ex pace Pragensi adducebantur, bifariam respondimus: Primo in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_016" n="16"/>tota illa compositione nullibi cautum, ne Caesar inconsultis ordinibus pacem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_017" n="17"/>facere possit. Deinde controuersiam ibi tantum inter Caesarem et status <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_018" n="18"/>catholicos ex una, ducem dein Saxoniae statusque protestantes ex altera parte <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_019" n="19"/>fuisse, itaque res ipsa monebat omnia de utrorumque consensu componi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_020" n="20"/>debere. Tum vel maxime spectatum ibi fuisse ad tributa extra ordinem <w lemma="statibus"><orig>stati-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_021" n="21"/><orig>bus</orig></w> imperii indicta, quae extra comitia vel generalia vel circularia ad solum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_022" n="22"/>Caesaris placitum exigi minime posse palam sit. Hic autem non de pace cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_023" n="23"/>ordinibus imperii, ut qui iam cum Caesare in gratiam rediissent, sed cum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_024" n="24"/>exteris componenda agi. Ad cuius compositionem statuum ordinumque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_025" n="25"/>praesentiam requiri nulla imperii lege aut constitutione cautum. Plura bella <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_026" n="26"/>nomine imperii ab Imperatoribus cum exteris gesta, pleraque tamen citra <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_027" n="27"/>ordinum praesentiam finita. Allegauimus praecipue duo exempla: <w lemma="Maximilianum"><orig>Maximilia-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_028" n="28"/><orig>num</orig></w> scilicet primum publico imperii decreto, stimulante etiam et instigante <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_029" n="29"/>Gallorum rege, bellum cum Venetis gessisse, finiisse tamen pace composita <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_030" n="30"/>etiam non adstantibus ordinibus imperii.<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_dok0261_n03"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_036" n="36"/>Im Vertrag von Blois 1504 IX 22 hatte Maximilian I. sich mit Frankreich zum Angriff auf <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_037" n="37"/>Venedig verbunden. Während Frankreich sich bald zurückzog, wurden die Auseinandersetzungen <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_038" n="38"/>Maximilians, dem der Reichstag zu Konstanz 1507 den Römerzug bewilligt hatte, mit <w lemma="Venedig"><orig>Vene-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_039" n="39"/><orig>dig</orig></w> erst durch die Verträge von Noyon und Brüssel 1516 beigelegt.</p></note> Maximilianum dein secundum<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280n2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_dok0261_n04"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_040" n="40"/>Maximilian II. (1527–1576), Kg. Böhmen 1562, römischer Kg. 1562, Kg. von Ungarn 1563, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_041" n="41"/>Kaiser 1564.</p></note> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_031" n="31"/>gestum publico pariter imperii decreto contra Selimannum Turcarum <w lemma="imperatorem"><orig>impera-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_032" n="32"/><orig>torem</orig></w> bellum pace inita composuisse per suos tantum legatos nullo prorsus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_033" n="33"/>ordinum imperii praesente aut suffragante.<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280n3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_dok0261_n05"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_042" n="42"/>Der Reichstag zu Augsburg hatte 1566 Kaiser Maximilian II. eine namhafte Türkensteuer <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_043" n="43"/>bewilligt. Doch starb Suleiman II. (1494–1566, Sultan 1520) bereits am 4. September bei der <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_044" n="44"/>Belagerung von Sziget. Der Frieden mit seinem Nachfolger Selim II. (1524–1574) erfolgte am <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l45" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_045" n="45"/>17. Februar 1568 zu Adrianopel.</p></note> Laudatum tamen gratiasque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_034" n="34"/>habitas ab uniuersis imperii ordinibus, cum de his rebus gestis in comitiis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0280l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00280_035" n="35"/>generalibus postea insecutis referret. Quin ipsam pacis Pragensis <w lemma="compositionem"><orig>composi-</orig><pb n="233" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00281"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_001" n="1"/><orig>tionem</orig></w> exemplo esse posse, ut hic quoque pariter ad pacem componendam <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_002" n="2"/>procedatur reiecta rerum transactarum confirmatione ad conuentum imperii <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_003" n="3"/>generalem.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_004" n="4"/>Ad praetensam restitutionem Treuirensis quod attineret, mirari nos, quod <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_005" n="5"/>Galli hanc inter praeliminaria numerarent, cum tamen haec quaestio ad ipsa <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_006" n="6"/>pacis penetralia spectet. Inauditum prorsus et ab omni pacificatione alienum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_007" n="7"/>ex captiuis quemquam restitui, antequam de pace conuentum. Aliter cogitare <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_008" n="8"/>nos non posse, quam et hanc quaestionem impediendis tractatibus pacis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_009" n="9"/>inuentam, cum facile perspiciant Galli in tam absona consentiri non posse. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_010" n="10"/>Agere ipsos de reputatione seu existimatione regi suo instauranda, sed <w lemma="interea"><orig>inte-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_011" n="11"/><orig>rea</orig></w> minime aequum esse, ut hoc cum summo Caesaris dedecore fiat. <w lemma="Electorem"><orig>Electo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_012" n="12"/><orig>rem</orig></w> hunc non minus ac reliquos status Caesaris et imperii vasallum, ciuem, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_013" n="13"/>subditum esse, iuramento fidelitatis et obedientiae obstrictum. In <w lemma="protectionem"><orig>protectio-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_014" n="14"/><orig>nem</orig></w> aut clientelam se alterius inconsulto Caesare et inuito subiicere non <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_015" n="15"/>potuisse. Tum et plura alia ab isto principe admissa, quae contra dignitatem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_016" n="16"/>salutemque imperii sint, ut hactenus caeteris quoque electoribus haud <w lemma="consultum"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_017" n="17"/><orig>sultum</orig></w> visum fuerit eum ante finitum bellum in libertatem restituere. Hic <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_018" n="18"/>tamen in specie considerandum ipsum non in manu Caesaris sed summi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_019" n="19"/>pontificis adeoque ipsius liberationem multis ambagibus obnoxiam esse. Belli <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_020" n="20"/>autem iure captum vel ex eo darum, quod urbs archiepiscopalis ipsa Treuiris <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_021" n="21"/>milite Gallo contra imperii leges et constitutiones insessa fuerit, ut plane pro <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_022" n="22"/>tali habendus esset, qui a Caesare et domino suo ad exterum regem desciuisset. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_023" n="23"/>Haec cum omnia Italico sermone explicassemus ad longum, Venetus duo <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_024" n="24"/>rursus opposuit: Primo si Caesari potestas pacificandi permissa, qui ergo fiat, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_025" n="25"/>quod Caesareanis deputati electorum in hoc negocio pacificationis adiuncti <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_026" n="26"/>dicantur? Deinde Gallos dicere ex Gothofredo<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_dok0261_n06"><p style="font-style:italic;"> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_042" n="42"/>Denis Godefroy (1549–1621) oder sein Sohn Théodore Godefroy (1580–1649), beide Verfasser <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_043" n="43"/>juristischer und historischer Schriften, letzterer Mitglied der französischen Gesandtschaft in Münster.</p></note> iurisconsulto probari, <w lemma="principibus"><orig>prin-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_027" n="27"/><orig>cipibus</orig></w> Germaniae licitum esse etiam inscio et inuito Caesare cum exteris <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_028" n="28"/>faedera componere. Unde sequi, quod Treuirensis oppugnatio iniusta fuerit. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_029" n="29"/>Ad primum respondimus: Anno 1636 electores Ratisbonae congregatos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_030" n="30"/>Caesari obtulisse quosdam ex suo collegio, quorum consilio et assistentia <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_031" n="31"/>eius commissarii uterentur, hocque a Caesare libenter admissum ea tamen <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_032" n="32"/>declaratione, ut commisarii ipsius totum pacis negocium sub titulo et <w lemma="nomine"><orig>no-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_033" n="33"/><orig>mine</orig></w> Caesareae maiestatis et sacri imperii tractarent gererentque<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281n2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_dok0261_n07"><p> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l44" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_044" n="44"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">Zum</hi> ius pacis et belli <hi style="font-style:italic;">auf dem Regensburger Kurfürstentag von 1636/37 vgl.</hi> H. <hi style="font-style:smallCaps;">Haan</hi> <hi style="font-style:italic;">S. 146ff.</hi></p></note>, electorum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_034" n="34"/>vero siue omnium siue aliquorum deputati eisdem consilii caussa praesto <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_035" n="35"/>essent. Itaque tum electorales tum aliorum ordinum deputatos nemini nisi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_036" n="36"/>nobis mandata sua exhibituros. Ad secundum falli Gallos et fallere cum ista <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_037" n="37"/>Gothofredi doctrina, nam iuxta tenorem aureae bullae pacisque publicae <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_038" n="38"/>constitutionem omnia eiusmodi faedera, quocunque nomine appellentur, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_039" n="39"/>disertis verbis prohibita, adeo ut nulli principum siue ordinum inspecto <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_040" n="40"/>iuris ordine eiusmodi faedera cum exteris contrahere liceat, idque <w lemma="clarissimorum"><orig>clarissi-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0281l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00281_041" n="41"/><orig>morum</orig></w> iurisconsultorum Germaniae tum protestantium tum catholicorum<pb n="234" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00282"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_001" n="1"/>auctoritate satis luculenter probari posse. Nos quidem non negare multa <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_002" n="2"/>talia facta antehac et fieri etiamnum, sed id ex secessionibus et rebellionibus <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_003" n="3"/>originem traxisse et semper compositis huiusmodi motibus renunciatum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_004" n="4"/>faederibus contra leges imperii contractis fuisse et renunciari oportuisse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l5" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_005" n="5"/>Tum ille quemadmodum pariter et dominus nuncius: De Treuirensi <w lemma="nonnulla"><orig>non-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l6" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_006" n="6"/><orig>nulla</orig></w> etiam a se Gallis obiecta et praesertim, quod tractatio de ipsius <w lemma="restitutione"><orig>restitu-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l7" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_007" n="7"/><orig>tione</orig></w> longiorem moram inuolueret. Tandem eo deuenisse, ut dicerent, si <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l8" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_008" n="8"/>impetrato a nobis saluo conductu hominem aliquem idoneum, ipsi ’un <w lemma="gentilhuomo"><orig>gentil-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l9" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_009" n="9"/><orig>huomo</orig></w>‘ nominabant, ad electorem mittere liceret, qui ipsi saluum <w lemma="conductum"><orig>conduc-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l10" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_010" n="10"/><orig>tum</orig></w> a Caesare pro ipso dudum iuxta praeliminarem conuentionem <w lemma="concessum"><orig>conces-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l11" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_011" n="11"/><orig>sum</orig></w> traderet atque exquireret, an in libertate constitutus et ad hosce <w lemma="congressus"><orig>con-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l12" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_012" n="12"/><orig>gressus</orig></w> non ipse venire sed suos tantum mandatarios mittere vellet, <w lemma="satisfactum"><orig>satis-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l13" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_013" n="13"/><orig>factum</orig></w> sibi fore. Nam Gallos euincere ex generali saluo conductu velle <w lemma="omnino"><orig>om-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l14" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_014" n="14"/><orig>nino</orig></w> licitum esse debere huic electori, ut in persona propria comparere possit, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l15" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_015" n="15"/>quod expresse in saluo conductu dicatur ’siue ipsimet status venire siue <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l16" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_016" n="16"/>suos deputare velint‘.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l17" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_017" n="17"/>Ad ea respondimus: Nos de ablegatione cursoris alicuius ad electorem hunc, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l18" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_018" n="18"/>quid facto opus videatur, consultare cum domino episcopo Osnabrugensi <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l19" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_019" n="19"/>velut deputato collegii electoralis velle. Gallos autem circa interpretationem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l20" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_020" n="20"/>verborum salui conductus vehementer errare. Nam ex regulis, ut supra dictum, <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l21" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_021" n="21"/>in generali locutione ea non comprehendi, quae quis verosimiliter <w lemma="concessurus"><orig>conces-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l22" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_022" n="22"/><orig>surus</orig></w> non fuisset. Saluos conductus generales ad eos tantum ordines <w lemma="pertinere"><orig>per-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l23" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_023" n="23"/><orig>tinere</orig></w>, qui in tali statu sint, ut absque aliis impedimentis comparere possint. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l24" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_024" n="24"/>Hoc ipsum Gallos olfecisse, cum ratione Treuirensis generali illa concessione <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l25" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_025" n="25"/>contenti esse noluerint, sed specialem saluoconductum pro ipso <w lemma="impetrauerint"><orig>impetraue-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l26" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_026" n="26"/><orig>rint</orig></w> eumque iis verbis conceptum admiserint, quibus non ipsimet electori in <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l27" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_027" n="27"/>persona comparendi sed tantum suos deputatos mittendi potestas datur. <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l28" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_028" n="28"/>Ergo nihil aliud ipsos flagitare posse.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l29" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_029" n="29"/>Postremo adiecerunt mediatores Gallos inter caetera excusasse, quod prius <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l30" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_030" n="30"/>ad Hollandos et Suecos de facienda propositione mittere debuerint, <w lemma="eorumque"><orig>eorum-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l31" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_031" n="31"/><orig>que</orig></w> responsum in dies exspectare. Hoc obtento mentem se suam ulterius <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l32" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_032" n="32"/>declaraturos. Sed nos paucis, num ergo sat temporis iam ante non habuissent <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l33" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_033" n="33"/>voluntatem istorum explorandi; et si ignorarent, diem ad faciendam <w lemma="propositionem"><orig>propo-</orig> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l34" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_034" n="34"/><orig>sitionem</orig></w> condicendum non fuisse. Hispani quoque plurima pro confirmanda <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l35" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_035" n="35"/>nostra oratione adiecerunt. Tandem mediatores facta breui ultro citroque <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l36" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_036" n="36"/>dictorum recapitulatione receperunt se denuo cum Gallis acturos, an omissis <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l37" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_037" n="37"/>ambagibus ad propositionem mediorum ad pacem inducere possint. Et <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l38" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_038" n="38"/>Venetus, ut ostenderet sibi per omnia satisfactum, his verbis colloquium <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l39" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_039" n="39"/>finiuit ad nuncium: vi so dire che habbiamo fatto una buona raccolta.</p>
	  <p><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l40" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_040" n="40"/>Ego digressis singulis ex voluntate domini comitis statim ad episcopum <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l41" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_041" n="41"/>Osnabrugensem<note type="edd" subtype="commAnnot" place="foot" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282n1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_dok0261_n08"><p> <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l43" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_043" n="43"/><hi style="font-style:italic;">Vgl.</hi> APW <hi style="font-style:italic;">III <ref type="page" subtype="extern" facs="#APWIIIC3-1_p0070" target="#bsb00056738_00070">C 3, 1 S. 20</ref>.</hi></p></note> omnia, quae acta essent, retuli et, quid ipsi circa Treuirensem <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0282l42" xml:id="bsb00056742_00282_042" n="42"/>videretur, quaesiui. Respondit consultum haud fore nec etiam ad Caesarem<pb n="235" facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0283" sameAs="#bsb00056742_00283"/><lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0283l1" xml:id="bsb00056742_00283_001" n="1"/>excusari posse, ut Gallis potestas fiat mittendi cursorem. Posse offerri nos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0283l2" xml:id="bsb00056742_00283_002" n="2"/>ad Caesarem scripturos, ut in forma iam dudum conuenta nouos saluos <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0283l3" xml:id="bsb00056742_00283_003" n="3"/>conductus in cancellaria aulica confici ac immediate ad electorem perferri <lb facs="APWIIIC2-1_p0283l4" xml:id="bsb00056742_00283_004" n="4"/>curet. Reliqua omnia, quae acta erant, vehementer probauit.</p>
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